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		<title>By: Humphrey Murray</title>
		<link>http://hum.phrey.net/2009/07/23/my-first-post/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Humphrey Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;m a fan of Wordpress.  It&#039;s simple to deploy and use and has a good user base (so it&#039;s stable).  If you are wanting to get up and going quick and spend most of your time  writing blog content then wordpress is for you.  Also, since it&#039;s so widely used it is easy to find a good looking template on the net to use.  However, it&#039;s code base is in php (which I don&#039;t like now that I&#039;ve started using python).  Php isn&#039;t very well structured and it&#039;s easy for your code to get messy.

On the other hand, byteflow isn&#039;t used as much as wordpress, and from what I can tell, the codebase hasn&#039;t been updated much recently.  It comes with a few demo themes, but if you don&#039;t like any of them (I didn&#039;t) then you&#039;ll need to create your own.  Although, that&#039;s not too hard if you know your way around html / css / js.

I think wordpress is a more stable product which is better suited for most people.  However, I chose byteflow because I wanted to use python/django, and I wanted to easily do custom things if need be.   It can also do mult-tag feeds which I think is a cool idea.  If you want to get involved in coding your own site a bit, then I think byteflow is a great starting point.  The code is easy to understand and Django is an awesome framework compared to php and others.

As for web-frameworks.  I&#039;d choose Django out of the python options.  It&#039;s got a massive user base, has recently had 1.0 and 1.1 releases.  Google think it&#039;s ok because they have based their appengine on it, or at least parts of it.  I would also choose django over rails for one reason - it runs much faster out there in the wild.

Personally, I&#039;d give both of them a go, and see what you like better. Oh, and you&#039;ll probably be able to find cheaper hosting for wordpress.  However, [webfaction](http://www.webfaction.com/?affiliate=humphreymurray) offer pretty awesome django webhosting from $8.50/month. (that&#039;s who I&#039;m with anyway).  Also, alwaysdata offer a free 10mb plan for django hosting which is ok if you can keep your site under 10mb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m a fan of Wordpress.  It&#8217;s simple to deploy and use and has a good user base (so it&#8217;s stable).  If you are wanting to get up and going quick and spend most of your time  writing blog content then wordpress is for you.  Also, since it&#8217;s so widely used it is easy to find a good looking template on the net to use.  However, it&#8217;s code base is in php (which I don&#8217;t like now that I&#8217;ve started using python).  Php isn&#8217;t very well structured and it&#8217;s easy for your code to get messy.</p>
<p>On the other hand, byteflow isn&#8217;t used as much as wordpress, and from what I can tell, the codebase hasn&#8217;t been updated much recently.  It comes with a few demo themes, but if you don&#8217;t like any of them (I didn&#8217;t) then you&#8217;ll need to create your own.  Although, that&#8217;s not too hard if you know your way around html / css / js.</p>
<p>I think wordpress is a more stable product which is better suited for most people.  However, I chose byteflow because I wanted to use python/django, and I wanted to easily do custom things if need be.   It can also do mult-tag feeds which I think is a cool idea.  If you want to get involved in coding your own site a bit, then I think byteflow is a great starting point.  The code is easy to understand and Django is an awesome framework compared to php and others.</p>
<p>As for web-frameworks.  I&#8217;d choose Django out of the python options.  It&#8217;s got a massive user base, has recently had 1.0 and 1.1 releases.  Google think it&#8217;s ok because they have based their appengine on it, or at least parts of it.  I would also choose django over rails for one reason &#8211; it runs much faster out there in the wild.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;d give both of them a go, and see what you like better. Oh, and you&#8217;ll probably be able to find cheaper hosting for wordpress.  However, [webfaction](http://www.webfaction.com/?affiliate=humphreymurray) offer pretty awesome django webhosting from $8.50/month. (that&#8217;s who I&#8217;m with anyway).  Also, alwaysdata offer a free 10mb plan for django hosting which is ok if you can keep your site under 10mb.</p>
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		<title>By: marco</title>
		<link>http://hum.phrey.net/2009/07/23/my-first-post/comment-page-1/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 08:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey thanks for the reply, that is quite helpful.  I basically narrowed it down to wordpress and byteflow, and am trying out both and following the Django tutorial.  

In fact I tried out a number of Python &quot;web frameworks&quot; and the one which seemed the most conceptual and easy is CherryPy.  Somehow it is more simple and abstracted and better for a mathematician it seems. I&#039;m not sure yet about Django.  Certainly it seems like more can be done within Django than CherryPy, which seems to be just a simple part of a framework.  

Disturbingly there is also Pylons, which is supposedly conceptually more advanced than Django, who knows what that means... I wish people could just get along.  

Marco</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey thanks for the reply, that is quite helpful.  I basically narrowed it down to wordpress and byteflow, and am trying out both and following the Django tutorial.  </p>
<p>In fact I tried out a number of Python &#8220;web frameworks&#8221; and the one which seemed the most conceptual and easy is CherryPy.  Somehow it is more simple and abstracted and better for a mathematician it seems. I&#8217;m not sure yet about Django.  Certainly it seems like more can be done within Django than CherryPy, which seems to be just a simple part of a framework.  </p>
<p>Disturbingly there is also Pylons, which is supposedly conceptually more advanced than Django, who knows what that means&#8230; I wish people could just get along.  </p>
<p>Marco</p>
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		<title>By: Humphrey Murray</title>
		<link>http://hum.phrey.net/2009/07/23/my-first-post/comment-page-1/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Humphrey Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there marco!

Glad to hear that you have chosen Python - It&#039;s a fantastic language.  Well my blog is running on Byteflow which is a opensource project that uses the Django framework.  I&#039;ve been using Django at work for a couple of years now, and it&#039;s amazing.  It really streamlines and simplifies the process of creating websites.  I think the reason that there aren&#039;t many mainstream blogs out there in python/django is because it is so simple to just create your own blog engine.  I think most python-django blogs are custom jobs.

I was really excited when I discovered ByteFlow...  Here&#039;s what I like about it:

 * It was one of the easiest django projects to get working initially.
 * It supported heaps of things.
 * It supported openid etc.
 * I have been using django for a while now, so if I want to change anything, it&#039;s easy.

After using it for a while, there were a few things that I don&#039;t like:

 * After a couple of days of using it I noticed that the project hadn&#039;t been updated in a while. I&#039;d prefer to use a code base that has active development happening.
 * It handles comments differently than I&#039;d like.  It does some weird thing with creating every commenter a user account.  However, I don&#039;t see the point of that.  So I&#039;m in the process of switching the comments over to use django.contrib.comments.
 * A couple of there ajax functions don&#039;t work if you don&#039;t have js enabled.

When i started this blog, I was deciding between wordpress and byteflow.  I chose byteflow because I&#039;m really familiar with django/python and thought it&#039;d be easier to do custom stuff if need be.

There wouldn&#039;t be much use in me posting my code for this blog as I haven&#039;t changed much from the ByteFlow Engine (So it&#039;s pretty good then).  Most of the work I&#039;ve done is to create my own custom theme.

Python has lots of modules that you can easily install (with easy_install).  Python is probably the language of choice for doing your latex equations and your syntax highlighting.  I think there is a module called beautifulsoup that will do the syntax highlighting.

There are also heaps of cool mini django apps that you can just plug into your blog.  django-tagging is a great example.  Anyway, if you haven&#039;t already, I&#039;d recommend following the getting started in django tutorial...  C what u think after that :-)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there marco!</p>
<p>Glad to hear that you have chosen Python &#8211; It&#8217;s a fantastic language.  Well my blog is running on Byteflow which is a opensource project that uses the Django framework.  I&#8217;ve been using Django at work for a couple of years now, and it&#8217;s amazing.  It really streamlines and simplifies the process of creating websites.  I think the reason that there aren&#8217;t many mainstream blogs out there in python/django is because it is so simple to just create your own blog engine.  I think most python-django blogs are custom jobs.</p>
<p>I was really excited when I discovered ByteFlow&#8230;  Here&#8217;s what I like about it:</p>
<p> * It was one of the easiest django projects to get working initially.<br />
 * It supported heaps of things.<br />
 * It supported openid etc.<br />
 * I have been using django for a while now, so if I want to change anything, it&#8217;s easy.</p>
<p>After using it for a while, there were a few things that I don&#8217;t like:</p>
<p> * After a couple of days of using it I noticed that the project hadn&#8217;t been updated in a while. I&#8217;d prefer to use a code base that has active development happening.<br />
 * It handles comments differently than I&#8217;d like.  It does some weird thing with creating every commenter a user account.  However, I don&#8217;t see the point of that.  So I&#8217;m in the process of switching the comments over to use django.contrib.comments.<br />
 * A couple of there ajax functions don&#8217;t work if you don&#8217;t have js enabled.</p>
<p>When i started this blog, I was deciding between wordpress and byteflow.  I chose byteflow because I&#8217;m really familiar with django/python and thought it&#8217;d be easier to do custom stuff if need be.</p>
<p>There wouldn&#8217;t be much use in me posting my code for this blog as I haven&#8217;t changed much from the ByteFlow Engine (So it&#8217;s pretty good then).  Most of the work I&#8217;ve done is to create my own custom theme.</p>
<p>Python has lots of modules that you can easily install (with easy_install).  Python is probably the language of choice for doing your latex equations and your syntax highlighting.  I think there is a module called beautifulsoup that will do the syntax highlighting.</p>
<p>There are also heaps of cool mini django apps that you can just plug into your blog.  django-tagging is a great example.  Anyway, if you haven&#8217;t already, I&#8217;d recommend following the getting started in django tutorial&#8230;  C what u think after that <img src='http://hum.phrey.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Humphrey</p>
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		<title>By: marco</title>
		<link>http://hum.phrey.net/2009/07/23/my-first-post/comment-page-1/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 11:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, looks very good. I have been looking around for a Python blog engine so that I can understand what is going on when I run my blog.  The situation seems like a big mess out there, with all kinds of web frameworks and awful support for blogs... Very different from the situation in Ruby... I&#039;m almost regretting having chosen Python as my first language ! not quite yet though.

Can you post a few words about how the setup of this blog works? Or even better, can you make the code available on a Git repository ? at least I know how those work (e.g. GitHub).  

Alright thanks in advance for *any* details.

PS I am hoping to have syntax highlighting in my blogs, as well as (hopefully) mathematics (e.g. Latex). Usually implementations of the latter look AWFUL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, looks very good. I have been looking around for a Python blog engine so that I can understand what is going on when I run my blog.  The situation seems like a big mess out there, with all kinds of web frameworks and awful support for blogs&#8230; Very different from the situation in Ruby&#8230; I&#8217;m almost regretting having chosen Python as my first language ! not quite yet though.</p>
<p>Can you post a few words about how the setup of this blog works? Or even better, can you make the code available on a Git repository ? at least I know how those work (e.g. GitHub).  </p>
<p>Alright thanks in advance for *any* details.</p>
<p>PS I am hoping to have syntax highlighting in my blogs, as well as (hopefully) mathematics (e.g. Latex). Usually implementations of the latter look AWFUL.</p>
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		<title>By: joshua.hesketh</title>
		<link>http://hum.phrey.net/2009/07/23/my-first-post/comment-page-1/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>joshua.hesketh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the OpenID feature, however you may like to trim the users input. I had a space at the end of my login and it didn&#039;t like it.

Also while the login form appears as an overlay on the current page, after logging in I&#039;m redirected back to the front page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the OpenID feature, however you may like to trim the users input. I had a space at the end of my login and it didn&#8217;t like it.</p>
<p>Also while the login form appears as an overlay on the current page, after logging in I&#8217;m redirected back to the front page.</p>
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		<title>By: Humphrey Murray</title>
		<link>http://hum.phrey.net/2009/07/23/my-first-post/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Humphrey Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 10:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha... yeah, I had a blog years ago but didn&#039;t post much.  Hopefully it&#039;ll be different this time!

Had a quick look at yours.  I like how it looks! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha&#8230; yeah, I had a blog years ago but didn&#8217;t post much.  Hopefully it&#8217;ll be different this time!</p>
<p>Had a quick look at yours.  I like how it looks! <img src='http://hum.phrey.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://hum.phrey.net/2009/07/23/my-first-post/comment-page-1/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 22:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About time you started a blog... everyone should have one (that&#039;s not hosted by facebook !)

Can&#039;t wait to read some coffee news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About time you started a blog&#8230; everyone should have one (that&#8217;s not hosted by facebook !)</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait to read some coffee news.</p>
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		<title>By: Humphrey Murray</title>
		<link>http://hum.phrey.net/2009/07/23/my-first-post/comment-page-1/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Humphrey Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about the stupid spam bots.

It&#039;ll stop now, as I&#039;ve just turned off auto-approval of anonymous comments.  When I get a chance, I&#039;ll make it so u need to pass a [&quot;human test&quot;](http://recaptcha.net/) to post a comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about the stupid spam bots.</p>
<p>It&#8217;ll stop now, as I&#8217;ve just turned off auto-approval of anonymous comments.  When I get a chance, I&#8217;ll make it so u need to pass a ["human test"](http://recaptcha.net/) to post a comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Humphrey Murray</title>
		<link>http://hum.phrey.net/2009/07/23/my-first-post/comment-page-1/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>Humphrey Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers man!

Na, not using wordpress.  I&#039;m using [byteflow](http://byteflow.su/) which runs on [django](http://djangoproject.com) (which is what I use at work).  Wordpress is awesome, but it&#039;s been too long since I&#039;ve used php and the hosted version isn&#039;t flexible enough for a nerd like me :-)

Good luck with the album man!  When you planning on releasing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers man!</p>
<p>Na, not using wordpress.  I&#8217;m using [byteflow](http://byteflow.su/) which runs on [django](http://djangoproject.com) (which is what I use at work).  Wordpress is awesome, but it&#8217;s been too long since I&#8217;ve used php and the hosted version isn&#8217;t flexible enough for a nerd like me <img src='http://hum.phrey.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Good luck with the album man!  When you planning on releasing?</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://hum.phrey.net/2009/07/23/my-first-post/comment-page-1/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yo Humph!

Nice blog, are you using wordpress to power this?

I like the layout too, simple, clean and just easy to read.

Coffee and nerdy stuff? what else do you need on a blog! *subscribes to feeds*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yo Humph!</p>
<p>Nice blog, are you using wordpress to power this?</p>
<p>I like the layout too, simple, clean and just easy to read.</p>
<p>Coffee and nerdy stuff? what else do you need on a blog! *subscribes to feeds*</p>
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		<title>By: Coz</title>
		<link>http://hum.phrey.net/2009/07/23/my-first-post/comment-page-1/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Coz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Humphrey B Legend! I&#039;m excited to have another blog to subsrice to.. particularly the coffee and travel sections.. sweet! Keep the posts pumping :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Humphrey B Legend! I&#8217;m excited to have another blog to subsrice to.. particularly the coffee and travel sections.. sweet! Keep the posts pumping <img src='http://hum.phrey.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Humphrey Murray</title>
		<link>http://hum.phrey.net/2009/07/23/my-first-post/comment-page-1/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Humphrey Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 04:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooh!  My first ever comment - Yay :-)

Thank man, and keep up the good posts on your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooh!  My first ever comment &#8211; Yay <img src='http://hum.phrey.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thank man, and keep up the good posts on your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Flight</title>
		<link>http://hum.phrey.net/2009/07/23/my-first-post/comment-page-1/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Flight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice one dude... looking forward to some nerdy updates because I too am a nerd.

I love the picture of yourself... it looks heaps like you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice one dude&#8230; looking forward to some nerdy updates because I too am a nerd.</p>
<p>I love the picture of yourself&#8230; it looks heaps like you.</p>
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